I don't have the sources at my fingertips, but there are several case
studies of successful utopian-socialists experiments in California that were
actively suppressed, using legal and extra-legal means, by what can only be
described as agents of Capitalist interest, when they became economically
successful. Others on the list may remember specific historical references
in regard to this.
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thank you for your response that leads me to my next question:
if co-ops can successfully give people what they want at a price that
excludes "surplus value", then why haven't they become a major factor in
republican-capitalist societies?
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CB: The capitalists are vigilant in retarding the growth of and destroying
any institutions that demonstrate the viability of an economy not based on
the extaction of surplus-value. They don't just sit around and let utopian
socialist projects creep-up and overcome capitalism.
Be clear. Capitalists are violently opposed to people being able to get what
they want ( or need) at a price that excludes "surplus value". They put
profit before people.