Rob writes:
>Yeah, but it does get frustrating when you write odes to diversity, putting
>'voice' at the very centre of the role of media, cite sources, critique
>methodology, empirically refute the 'results', suggest alternative approaches
>to the issue etc - and your interlocutor [Brad deLong] ignores it all and 
>then tells the
>world you're siding with  the very embodiment of 19th century repression and
>autocracy!  Brad's language wasn't harsh (indeed he's usually a beaut read),
>but deliberate misrepresentation (to let it pass as a misreading of so many
>clearly written posts is to do so intelligent a man an injustice) and then
>accusations that we're "taking sides with Metternich" (!!) - well, that
>strikes me as naughty enough to warrant just a little indignation.
>
>I mean, what's a coke-sniffer or a political dyslexic compared to a
>Metternich?!  I reckon Michael and Jim showed admirable restraint, myself.

As far as I'm concerned, Brad is a useless member of pen-l, despite or 
perhaps because of his exalted academic status. At this point, he is better 
at stimulating flame-wars than he is at intellectual debate. In general, I 
find it useful to debate with orthodox economists (because I know a lot of 
their stuff and find that they often don't while sometimes I learn 
something), but Brad currently is filtering my messages, so debate is 
impossible. I sometimes feel I have license to insult him (as with my 
"political dyslexia" remark, which is pretty mild) -- because he doesn't 
read the insults.

But mostly I try to avoid flaming as much as I can. The problem is that 
Brad seems to deliberately provoke people on pen-l, though he doesn't use 
explicit harsh language or explicit insults. He seems quite sectarian in 
his style. As Michael Keaney suggests, Brad may also be participating in 
pen-l in order to confirm his prejudices against the left. He clearly 
doesn't aim to promote the development of radical or leftist or socialist 
political economics.

Now, I don't think that Brad should be expelled (though maybe that guy 
who's going on and on about eonics might be expelled). Rather, I think 
Michael Perelman should ask him to clean up his act. Remind him that the 
point of pen-l is dialogue.

Heck, in the spirit of non-Christian charity, I have a proposal, for the 
kind of mutually-beneficial exchange that neoclassicals love so much. In 
exchange for stopping his filtering of me, I will never insult Brad in any 
way. However, I will continue to trash neoliberalism, the IMF, Andrei S., 
Lawrence Summers, and the ignorance of neoclassical economists. I know that 
this proposal -- like all individualistic "solutions" -- won't solve the 
structural problems of Brad's presence on pen-l, but at least it would make 
my participation marginally more pleasant and useful.

The problem with this proposal, of course, is that Brad can't read it!

Jim Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED] & http://bellarmine.lmu.edu/~JDevine

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