Have we any examples from the past of people making 100 year predictions re
energy? Are any near the mark? Were they mostly too optimistic or
pessimistic?

Cheers, Ken Hanly


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From: Sam Pawlett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Marxism <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Monday, July 09, 2001 6:44 PM
Subject: [PEN-L:14869] : Yet another take on Hubbert's peak


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> > Today, in terms of both entropy and accumulation, the indicators are all
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> > the opposite way. The great hoped-for innovations like fusion energy,
the
> > Internet etc, haven't panned out. Meanwhile, accessible, low-entropy
> > reserves of fossil energy have started to run out and extraction of the
> > remaining reserve is becoming more costly in both energy and value
terms.
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> Ok.  I think I've nailed the problem: the energy base of capitalism is
only
> sustainable as long as technological change and efficiency improvements
> offset the increasing marginal costs associated with exploiting the
> declining quality of the resource base, so much so that the marginal costs
> of expanding energy supply may exceed the marginal benefits (once
> environmental factors are factored in.) So, I think, it makes more  sense
> to speak of the end of cheap energy and a transition to costlier energy.
As
> the costs of exploiting the declining resource bases increase, so does the
> share of energy as a percent of total economic product. And an energy
system
> that claims a constantly rising share of economic product is not
sustainable
> (in the long run).   The problem then becomes one of both "paying too
much"
> and 'having too little" (a positive feedback mechanism there). Cost
> increases mean the economic benefits of
> expanding energy supply will flow in an extremely unequal manner.
> Alternatives to fossil are worse. Even though the raw energy is free
> (e.g. the sun) the technology and labor required to make electricity is
> high,
> from 1.5 to 5 times as high as fossil according to the most optimistic
> views.
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> At best, costlier energy means that less developed countries will not be
> able
> to industrialize the way the North has: through cheap energy. The only way
> will be for the North to decrease consumption. Because of acute capital
> shortage, countries of the South will follow the cheapest energy supply
for
> their industrialization efforts and the subsequent bid to raise their
> standards of living to Northern levels. This  means burning coal and
> biomass (there are new coal-fired boilers coming online almost daily in
> places like Indonesia.) This will (and is) wreaking havoc on the global
> ecology and environment.
>
> According to one energy 'expert' the following is the most optimistic
> scenario:
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> >From John P. Holdren "The Transition to Costlier Energy". Intro. to
*Energy
> Efficiency and Human Acitivity* Lee Schipper and Stephen Myers Cambridge U
> Press.1992.
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> Here's Holdren's kick at the can (which I think is hopelessly utopian
> barring significant drastic political change):
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> "The scenerio is constructed, for simplicity, using just two
subpopulations,
> consisting in 1990 of 1,2 billion "rich" and 4.1 billion "poor". (The
> dividing line is an average GNP per person of 4000 US dollars per yer.) I
> assume that energy per person among the population of the rich countries
can
> be reduced by 2% per year between 1990 and 2025, with gains in economic
> well-being to dcome from increases in energy efficiency exceeding 2% per
> year...For the poor countries, I assume that the rate of energy use per
> person increases at 2% per year, which, together with efficiency
> improvements, would yield a much higher rate of increase in economic
> well-being. The result is a halving of energy use per person in the rich
> countries between 1990 and 2025 and a doubling in energy use per person in
> the poor countries. After another 25 years, during which rich country
energy
> use per person falls at around 1% per year and poor country energy use per
> person grows at just over 1% per year, the rich-poor distinction has
> disappeared. Because of the momentum built into the age structure of the
> world population, the population does not actually stabilize, at around 10
> billion people, until after the year 2100. I assume that energy per person
> holds constant at 3 kilowatts per person after 2050, with gains in
economic
> well being coming from innovations that further increase energy
efficiency."
> p45.
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>              Population           energy/person       totalenergy
>                (billions)            (kilowatt/person)  (terawatts)
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> 1990 Rich 1.2                       7.5                        9
>          Poor 4.1                       1                           4.1
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> 2025 Rich 1.4                         3.8                     5.3
>          Poor 6.8                       2                          13.6
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> 2050  9.1                               3                          18.9
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> 2100 10.0                               3                         30
>              or
>          12.5                                3
37.5
>              or
>           10                                   5                        50
>             or
>           12.5                                5
62.5
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>  to be continued..
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> Sam Pawlett
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