Michael, I'm not sure I agree. Yoshie isn't accusing Mark of not being a Marxist or not being a committed socialist or, even more ridiculously, supporting capitalism. Nor is she outright misquoting a person, just asking for clarification and/or making a challenge to someone w/o throwing out insults at them or questioning their integrity as a socialist, even *if* their approach to analyzing capitalism differs from her own and she believes it misguided in x,y, or z fashion. I find this exchange between Mark and Yoshie very informative actually. Steve > ===== > > One reason why listers might be afraid to jump into any discussion is this > sort of challenge. Given the vastness of the task facing socialists, such > "false holism" is not worthy of a casual email; rather, it would be the > subject of a whole discussion group. Maybe PEN-L could evolve that way. But > you could sound a bit more constructive, rather than an implicit offer to > "put up or shut up". Given the obvious time and effort Mark has spent > contributing of late, that's unjustified. > > Michael K. > >