Jim you have touched on an old friend (Engels OSPPFS).

I am sorry I do not know of a recent work and I agree with you on 
Reed, but have you read George Thomson's "The Prehistoric 
Aegean" and "Aesceplus in Athens" (his "First Philosophers" is 
worth a read also). Thomson actually employs Engels method to 
great effect and though it is a bit old (1948 I believe) I am sure you 
will find it a revelation and far from a waste of time. I think the first 
book above will almost meet your needs.

As you are probably aware Gorden Vere Child used Engels 
periodization quite extensively and also to good and productive 
effect in his archaeological synthesis (now proved wrong but being 
the foundation of its own disproof - that is his synthesis of Danubian 
culture and European artifacts does not follow his logic, but without 
his logic it could not have in the end be disproved as we would not 
have the basis for a new synthesis not yet created).

A much harder read is Krader's "Marx's Ethnological Notebooks" 
but I am not in agreement with his preface and it is off the topic of 
your inquiry (it does show that Engels is not too far removed from 
Marx's opinions). Morgan's "Ancient Society" stills stands up today 
though some of his concerns are simply quaint (ie brain size).

Jim you might not believe it but Morgans collection of kinship terms 
has never been equaled, in fact, in terms of modern anthropology no-
one has even come close (I forget the name of the publication where 
he announced his first results but it is also worth a read - well at least 
a decent glance).

Years ago I scanned Soviet archaeological sources where, 
unfortunately, Engels scheme was applied most mechanically and 
unproductively (no-doubt some keen Soviet archaeologist made 
good use of it but I found no evidence in translations - I recommend 
avoiding this area).

In the late 1970s I wrote a small graduate thesis on OFPPS, which 
turned out to be a bit of a disaster. My first impression of Engels was 
not good and I decided I would write a critique (I was very young 
and stupid). To this end I collected all the feminist and 
anthropological literature I could find, everything I could lay my 
hands on that had anything critical to say.

Just as I finished this notetaking and needed to get writing, I re-read 
Engels and found to my dismay that he was far better then I first 
thought (hence the thesis went down the toilet as the whole thrust 
was changed at the last minute).

First the criticisms of Engels and Morgan can be traced back to Boas 
who displaced Morganist concerns and took the first chair in 
anthropology in the US. If I remember rightly his criticisms boiled 
down to a couple of unimportant points and a major accusation that 
Morgan had not understood Aztec culture at all (Boas relying on 
Spanish sources). Boas was wrong, very wrong in the light of 
modern views.

I could not find in all my searches any criticism of Engels/Morgans 
anthropology which did not trace right back to Boas - quite a 
surprise after the passage of years even twenty years ago. Moreover, 
Boas was a empiricist of first water and whose anthropology from 
what I have read is ahistorical nonsense, not what I would call a 
reliable source (I think you will find that Reed and White assume 
Boas to be correct which is a real pity as Morgan has proved to be 
superior as a matter of record - Boas' anthropology proved incorrect 
in each specific instance in regard to his criticism).

Morgan, Marx and Engels are not without their problems in this 
area, one of which was that they gave too much emphasis to the role 
kinship in human biological development (of course they had no 
ideas of the real complexity of genes and a very much compressed 
view of human biological evolution). Moreover, there work contains 
no actual social dialectic for change within pre-class societies, but 
other than that as an abstract theory of social evolution there work 
stands up very well indeed despite its reputation (Again I would 
refer you to Thomson's excellent application of the theory in 
unraveling the prehistory of the Greeks).

If you are interested to track down a pamphlet by (I think) Peggy 
Anne Dobbins "From Kin to Class" you will find that she has 
discovered the missing dialectic in the equal exchange of necessary 
labour (compare this to Sahlins muddled attempt to employ use-
value to understand kin societies) - a word of warning on Dobbins 
work (perhaps one of the most poorly printed I have ever come 
across) she has some rather bizarre ideas on human sexual 
dimorphism which should be treated as the eccentricity that they are 
but not used to dismiss her discovery which, at any rate, appears to 
have been completely ignored.

Jim if you find a good recent work on any of this could you please 
let me know as it is an area that I am very interested in, but being 
removed from academic resources I would not have a clue what has 
happened in the last twenty years in this area.

Good luck Engels has a few big surprises in his little work

Greg Schofield
Perth Australia




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From: Jim Devine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2001 15:18:26 -0700
Subject: [PEN-L:18974] query: Engels & anthropology

Has there been a serious effort to consider Engels' _Origin of the Family, 
Private Property, and the State_ from the perspective of recent 
anthropology, i.e., to present a serious critique (rather than a trashing) 
and reconciliation? (The effort by Evelyn Reed in the edition that I own 
seems to be a bit too hagiographical.)

Jim Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED] &  http://bellarmine.lmu.edu/~jdevine

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