Yoshie: I agree with Rakesh.  One of the points of thinking in terms of
value
is, I think, to overcome the limit of economism.  That is, thinking
in terms of prices & wages alone can only tell us how one segment of
workers fare in comparison to others, as well as whether the
purchasing power of individual workers _as consumers_ is going up or
down.  Thought in terms of prices & wages, lower wages for other
segments of workers may seem good to you, as they allow your segment
to command more products & services created by them.  Thought in
terms of value, however, lower wages for other segments of workers
essentially cheapen the value of your segment's labor power.  Thus,
even though your real wages as well as nominal wages are going up,
you may be still losing out to the class that exploit you.  Thought
only in terms of wages & prices (terms of market competition), there
is no objective basis for solidarity across barriers (occupational
categories, national borders, productive vs. unproductive labor,
races, genders, etc.) that separate different segments of workers,
but thinking in terms of value allows us to discover the objective
basis.

Karl: Yes. This is precisely the problem with the radical left on the
Argentinian crisis. They confine politics to the limits of price and
wages. Instead transcending those bourgeois limits to the real limits
that entail critique they steadfastly confine themselves to the level of
reformism which reflects itself in their vulgar political economy: more
wages and more money. Value relations is the only basis for critique of
capitalism. Value relations is the theoretical basis for revolutionary
communist programmatic action --not prices and wages.

Regards
Karl Carlile (Communist Global Group)
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