Somewhere, both John Stuart Mill and Marx both said something like Lowe --
without a starting point, the establishment of a price structure would be
difficult.  When I was writing my Natural Instability book, I try to find
these references, but couldn't.  Maybe it was my memory.  Here is the
closest I came in writing the book:

Even when goods were sold on the market, custom and tradition remained an
important component of price (see Dalton 1982).    Sometimes these customs
required that specific commodities exchange for one another in fixed
proportions (See Marx 1977, p. 182; Mandel 1970: i, pp. 73ff; Polanyi 1957;
and Oppenheim 1957).  As John Stuart Mill observed, in areas where
competition has not yet taken hold, "... the habitual regulator is customs,
modified from time to time by notions existing in the minds of purchasers
and sellers, of some kind of equity or justice" (Mill 1848, p. 243).  Since
custom varied from place to place, these prices were largely local.

Even when goods were sold on the market, custom and tradition remained an
important component of price (see Dalton 1982).    Sometimes these customs
required that specific commodities exchange for one another in fixed
proportions (See Marx 1977, p. 182; Mandel 1970: i, pp. 73ff; Polanyi 1957;
and Oppenheim 1957).  As John Stuart Mill observed, in areas where
competition has not yet taken hold, "... the habitual regulator is customs,
modified from time to time by notions existing in the minds of purchasers
and sellers, of some kind of equity or justice" (Mill 1848, p. 243).  Since
custom varied from place to place, these prices were largely local.

"Forstater, Mathew" wrote:

> Lowe had an interesting little paper on value theory where he asked,
> "Suppose a universal amnesia were to wipe out the knowledge of all
> present prices, would there be a rule for reestablishing them?" He then
> looked at both neoclassical marginalist (utility) theory and
> classical/Marxian (labor theory of) value theory and concluded that
> there is neither case any way to establish prices without reference to
> *history*.  This does seem to put a bit of a historical
> school/institutionalist what jim called 'empiricist' slant on it.*
>

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Michael Perelman
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