Sabri Oncu wrote:

>Revisions are always an issue. But there are also the
>"reliability" and "meaninfulness" issues. I leave realibility
>aside, too many lies are being told in these days so one doesn't
>know what to believe and what not to believe anymore. But take a
>look at this University of Michigan Consumer Sentiment and
>Expectation Indices for example: they are some monthly numbers
>based on a survey of 500 to 600 individuals who are supposed to
>represent the 280+ million American consumers. There two releases
>of these indices every month: one preliminary, one final. Mind
>you, the priliminary numbers are based on roughly 250 to 280
>individuals. How "meaningful" measures can these indices be of
>the feelings of the American consumers? Yet, they can move
>markets.

There's a NY Fed paper on the confidence numbers 
<http://www.ny.frb.org/rmaghome/econ_pol/698bram.htm> - the Michigan 
ones aren't very useful, esp the early readings, but the Conference 
Board's is ok. What's best are measures of current household finances 
& people's sense of the job market.

Someone posted a news story here on the Reserve Bank of Australia's 
study of Australian confidence numbers. They're pretty worthless, 
apparently 
<http://www.rba.gov.au/PublicationsAndResearch/RDP/RDP2001-09.html>.

Yes they move markets, but sometimes for as little as 2 minutes. 
Anything moves markets. Markets move on their own, and people select 
reasons after the fact.

Doug

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