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>From: Jon Beasley-Murray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: Louis Proyect <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Date: 4/16/02 12:25:12 AM
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>Louis, I'm sorry that by some freak of internet you only received
the last
>two sentences of the first of two longish texts I sent out yesterday.
>Thanks to Michael P, readers of aut-op-sy will also think that
my
>commentary on what's been going on in Venezuela is brief indeed.
>
>I'll gladly pass on the full texts of both pieces.
>
>Take care
>
>Jon
>
>Jon Beasley-Murray
>Spanish and Portuguese
>University of Manchester
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>http://www.art.man.ac.uk/spanish/jbm.html
>http://www.art.man.ac.uk/lacs/
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>On Mon, 15 Apr 2002, Louis Proyect wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 15 Apr 2002 15:38:49 -0700, Jon Beasley-Murray wrote:
>> >
>> >The current regime lacks
>> >any legitimacy, however much it may  have
>> >paraded invented rituals for the cameras, and
>> >will survive only  through repression or apathy.
>> >But the multitude is waiting for other
>> >alternatives, and other possibilities
>>
>> The multitude is waiting for other possibilities? This must
be a
>> reference to Spinoza-ist communism which will be ushered in
by broken
>> Starbucks windows. I would think the one thing that Argentina
and
>> Venezuela dramatize is the need for the working-class to organize
>> itself politically as a class in order to create a new STATE
that
>> reflects its own needs. Both Venezuela and Argentina are potentially
>> wealthy countries that can provide a level of income and security
>> that are much higher than Cuba's, let alone the average 3rd
world
>> country.
>>
>> It continues to amaze me that these silly quasi-anarchist
formulas
>> about the "multitude" have any credibility. With hunger and
disease
>> rampant in Argentina, the STATE can deliver food and health
care that
>> is urgently needed. By polemicizing against the need for SOCIALISM
>> let alone a left social democratic or populist government
in the
>> Chavez or Peron mold, the autonomists reveal themselves to
be an
>> anti-working class current. They are for pie in the sky in
the
>> future, while people go to sleep hungry today.
>>
>>
>> --
>> Louis Proyect, [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 04/15/2002
>>
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>>
>>
>>
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