A book I just bought, "Perceptions of Palestine, " by Kathleen Christison, University of Ca. Press, 1999, has this footnote. Pg. 316, fn. #29, "The original quote-, 'A country without a nation for a nation without a country, "- came from Lord Shaftesbury in 1839. (Michael W. ) Suleiman Palestine and the Palestinians in the mind of America, " in, "U.S. Policy from Wilson to Clinton, " Normal, Illinois, American Asociation of Arab-American University Graduates, 1995. Michael Pugliese
4/21/02 2:17:55 PM, "Forstater, Mathew" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Michael wrote: > >>I recalled too many "leftist" jewish people getting irrational about >>Israel. > >I forget who said it, but it has always seemed accurate for many I've >known or known of: > >"Israel/Palestine is one subject where otherwise very intelligent people >become stupid as a doorknob." > >I have some family members who are simply incapable of accepting the >facts concerning Zionism/Israel. It is not even discussable. For years >their outlook was supported and protected by the U.S. government and >media, who went along with the Zionist propaganda machine. It does seem >to have changed somewhat, but the changes may only reflect Israeli >policy. It wasn't so long ago that Israeli leaders would not even admit >that there exists a "Palestinian" people. Recall the famous Golda Meir >quote. And the old slogan "A people without a land for a land without a >people." Palestinians were simply obliterated. > >The whole phenomenon is also related to the move to the political right >on the part of many American Jews. Rather than face the facts on >Israel/Zionism they changed their views on everything else--so at least >they are less inconsistent. > >If only people had been able to separate out being Jewish (religiously, >culturally, or both) from Israel. By melting them into one thing, >people who feel strongly about their Jewishness became strong supporters >and apologists for Israel. Of course, this was an intentional policy of >the Zionists. They exploited feelings about Jewishness and the >Holocaust to garner support for Israel. Any criticism of Israel was >automatically considered anti-Semetic, etc. > >People were duped, and they don't like to face up to their mistakes. >And the longer it goes on, the more difficult it is to admit the truth. > >
