Anyone read this book? "Workers' Control and Socialist Democracy: the Soviet 
Experience, " (Verso, 1982), by Carmen Sirianni??? Or the Maurice Brinton 
pamphlet on the Soviets??? 
Michael Pugliese

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>From: "Devine, James" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: "'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Date: 4/29/02 3:07:58 PM
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>You're right. I don't want to argue about this at this point. The key is
>when the workers' & peasants' & soldiers' soviets lost political power to
>the CPSU, so that decisions were made from above rather than democratically.
>I'll leave the dating of that shift to another discussion.
>
>Jim Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED] &  http://bellarmine.lmu.edu/~jdevine
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Hari Kumar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>> Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 3:38 PM
>> To: pen-l
>> Subject: [PEN-L:25528] Response to JD re 1956
>> 
>> 
>> JD cites HK: " Post 1956 the USSR was a neo-social-imperialist state,"
>> & asks:
>> "why _only_ post 1956?? JD"
>> REPLY:
>> Clearly we are not going to agree on the nature fo the state apparatus
>> prior to the death of Stalin - I see no point in discussing it unless
>> you wish to be quite specific please. Following 1956, however the
>> capture fo state power by Khruschev-ite was complete. From 
>> this stage on - we would probably not disagree on what that made the class
>
>> relation fo the USSR with other nations. Toe make the point explicit 
>> however, and to trace the steps: The Khruschev-ite now re-structured the 
>> economic system of renumeration in the USSR to re-enshrine profit - using
>the 
>> notion of managerial bonuses. This was first promulgate during Stalin's 
>> lifetime - & fought off by Stalin. (See the Vosonosensky Affair in the
>below
>> reference). After the death of JVS, the way was clear for a un-impeded
>> implementation of the "Lieberman" Reforms.
>> Bill Bland before his death used USSr documents to trace the steps way
>> back in 1980. Alliance placed this on the web, until Yahoo 
>> shut us down.
>> It is now at this web-site below:
>>  http://www.oneparty.co.uk/html/book/ussrindex.html
>> 
>> 
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