We're not gonna have that tired and silly debate on how the boomers hog all the cultural bandwith are we? "The" Queen is about to Knight Mick Jagger for fux sake.............
Ian ----- Original Message ----- From: "Doug Henwood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, June 10, 2002 11:14 AM Subject: [PEN-L:26687] Re: Re: RE: RE: Anti-globalization babe > Ian Murray wrote: > > >What's even more ridiculous about it the presumption that the 20-30 > >something's are obliged to tell their world weary/cynical elders > >something they don't already know, when in fact NH, NK etc. are > >communicating with their peers; the ones who have to try and deal with a > >pathetic mess they didn't make. > > > ---- > > > >Date: Sun, 9 Jun 2002 21:16:44 +0200 > >From: Drazen Pantic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >To: nettime <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Subject: <nettime> terrific post from slashdot ... > > > >In a discussion about the interview David Bowie gave to > >NYT, [1], Dr. Spork, posted the text with the title "Only > >rebels left are old!", [2] : > > > >Am I the only young person who notices that the only people > >who express their dissent at stupid things in this world > >today are old? This is a terrible sign! I seriously think > >that historians will view this decade as the "era of new > >conformity," sort of like the 50s without the commies. > >I'm serious: Take for example the only people you see > >speaking out in public against the idiotic "War on > >Terror"--they are old! Even academics who find it just as > >stupid as I do keep their mouths shut, even if they have > >tenure. > >The same goes for this "Intellectual Property" debate. I > >would be shocked if there weren't many young artists who > >agree with every word that Bowie says about the > >subject. Still, they keep a low profile and don't rock the > >boat, because we live in a climate where that gets you > >severely punished. I wasn't there, but I suspect in the 60's > >and 70's people faced the same dilemmas, but they said "fuck > >it, I'll say what I think and see what happens." But then > >again, maybe the government and the corporations have us > >under a tighter clamp now than any other time in Western > >history since constitutions started being written. > >Sure, we all have a right to free speech, but the system has > >made it so that speaking freely is severely against our > >interest. This means that even though we won't go to jail, > >we will get fired, spied upon, harassed, and vilified as > >friends of terrorists. (How long will it take before > >somebody argues that abolishing IP laws would be "caving in > >to terrorism"? Surely they will find some stupid, tenuous > >connection.) > >Anyway, this era makes me sick. You people suck. I might as > >well burn my books now to save you the trouble, because when > >these old- school rebels die, nobody will raise their voice > >in protest. > > > > > > > >[1] http://www.nytimes.com/2002/06/09/arts/music/09PARE.html?todaysheadlines > >[2] http://slashdot.org/articles/02/06/09/1354201.shtml?tid=141 > > > ># distributed via <nettime>: no commercial use without permission > ># <nettime> is a moderated mailing list for net criticism, > ># collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets > ># more info: [EMAIL PROTECTED] and "info nettime-l" in the msg body > ># archive: http://www.nettime.org contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >
