Verified by Visa    Hermann Goering

Claim:   Hermann Goering proclaimed that although "the people don't want
war," they "can always be brought to the bidding of their leaders."
Status:   True.

Example:     [Collected on the Internet, 2002]


"Of course the people don't want war. But after all, it's the leaders of the
country who determine the policy, and it's always a simple matter to drag
the people along whether it's a democracy, a fascist dictatorship, or a
parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can
always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have
to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for
lack of patriotism, and exposing the country to greater danger."
-- Herman Goering at the Nuremberg trials

Origins:   Another
timely quote in the vein of the apocryphal Julius Caesar warning about
political leaders who can all too easily send the citizenry marching eagerly
off to war by manufacturing crises that purportedly threaten national
security and making popular appeals to patriotism. In this case the
sentiment expressed is even more disturbing because it comes not from a
venerated figure of antiquity, but supposedly from a reviled
twentieth-century figure associated with the most chilling example of
genocide in human history: Hermann Goering, Nazi Reichsmarshall and
Luftwaffe-Chief. We may be made somewhat uneasy by the idea that the head of
a classic civilization recognized 2,000 years ago that the populace could be
manipulated into sacrificing themselves in wars at the whims of their
leaders, but we're outraged (and maybe even scared) at the thought of a fat
Nazi fascist flunky's recognizing and telling us the same thing.

The notable difference here is that although the Caesar quote is a
latter-day fabrication, the words attributed to Hermann Goering are real.
Goering was one of the highest-ranking Nazis who survived to be captured and
put on trial for war crimes in the city of Nuremberg by the Allies after the
end of World War II. He was found guilty on charges of "war crimes," "crimes
against peace," and "crimes against humanity" by the Nuremberg tribunal and
sentenced to death by hanging. The sentence could not be carried out,
however, because Goering committed suicide with smuggled cyanide capsules
hours before his execution, scheduled for 15 October 1946.

The quote cited above does not appear in transcripts of the Nuremberg trials
because although Goering spoke these words during the course of the
proceedings, he did not offer them at his trial. His comments were made
privately to Gustave Gilbert, a German-speaking intelligence officer and
psychologist who was granted free access by the Allies to all the prisoners
held in the Nuremberg jail. Gilbert kept a journal of his observations of
the proceedings and his conversations with the prisoners, which he later
published in the book Nuremberg Diary. The quote offered above was part of a
conversation Gilbert held with a dejected Hermann Goering in his cell on the
evening of 18 April 1946, as the trials were halted for a three-day Easter
recess:


Sweating in his cell in the evening, Goering was defensive and deflated and
not very happy over the turn the trial was taking. He said that he had no
control over the actions or the defense of the others, and that he had never
been anti-Semitic himself, had not believed these atrocities, and that
several Jews had offered to testify in his behalf. If [Hans] Frank
[Governor-General of occupied Poland] had known about atrocities in 1943, he
should have come to him and he would have tried to do something about it. He
might not have had enough power to change things in 1943, but if somebody
had come to him in 1941 or 1942 he could have forced a showdown. (I still
did not have the desire at this point to tell him what [SS General Otto]
Ohlendorf had said to this: that Goering had been written off as an
effective "moderating" influence, because of his drug addiction and
corruption.) I pointed out that with his "temperamental utterances," such as
preferring the killing of 200 Jews to the destruction of property, he had
hardly set himself up as champion of minority rights. Goering protested that
too much weight was being put on these temperamental utterances.
Furthermore, he made it clear that he was not defending or glorifying
Hitler.
Later in the conversation, Gilbert recorded Goering's observations that the
common people can always be manipulated into supporting and fighting wars by
their political leaders:

We got around to the subject of war again and I said that, contrary to his
attitude, I did not think that the common people are very thankful for
leaders who bring them war and destruction.

"Why, of course, the people don't want war," Goering shrugged. "Why would
some poor slob on a farm want to risk his life in a war when the best that
he can get out of it is to come back to his farm in one piece. Naturally,
the common people don't want war; neither in Russia nor in England nor in
America, nor for that matter in Germany. That is understood. But, after all,
it is the leaders of the country who determine the policy and it is always a
simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy or a
fascist dictatorship or a Parliament or a Communist dictatorship."

"There is one difference," I pointed out. "In a democracy the people have
some say in the matter through their elected representatives, and in the
United States only Congress can declare wars."

"Oh, that is all well and good, but, voice or no voice, the people can
always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have
to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for
lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same way
in any country."

Last updated:   4 October 2002



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   Sources:
    Gilbert, G.M.   Nuremberg Diary.
    New York: Farrar, Straus and Company, 1947   (pp. 278-279).

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