Les:

> i agree chaos and complexity studies have a
> fad __component__.

Les,

As I know it, fad means craze, trend, mania and the like. In that
sense, anyone who knows some math knows that chaos is a fad. Take
a look at the Preface of that beautiful book by Stephen Wiggins
where he says:

"Finally, although nonlinear dynamics and chaos have become
something of a fad over a decade it is still true that an
understanding of nonlinear phenomena requires a solid
mathematical background and a lot of hard work."

Topology was like that too at some point, although it never got
the publicity chaos did, but this does not mean that topology is
useless or irrelevant. Nor chaos as a theory is useless or
irrelevant. Of course, it is useful and relevant. Even game
theory can be useful, dispite my doubts. But none of these have
anything to do with their "fadness", whatever that means. When
you are an insider, you view things differently.

> your friend is missing something.

I doubt it. People like him don't miss much in such regards. By
the way, at some point in his mathematics career he said, I am
not gonna finish this PhD and started to read about the history
of art. About the same time I started reading about the history
of Jazz, so this is why I remember it.

> what does he think of Goedel's work??? to my mind his
> theorem highlights BOTH the strengths and weaknesses of
> axiomatic systems, as he utiliized ingenious techniques
> to derive said theroems.

I better put you in touch with him so that he can answer your
question personally. He was the first person from whom I heard
about Goedel and at the time he was 18 and I was 17.

Best,

Sabri

PS: Is Marsden you mentioned is Jerry Marsden?

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