Max:

> Don't know much about (anything, actually)
> electricity, but . . .
>
> I doubt the relevance of rivalness/excludability
> in this context (putting aside enviro/other
> externalities).  Seems to me the main things
> are natural monopoly, oui or non.

Well. I had to take a few courses from the electrical engineering
department when I was young although don't remember much after all these
years. But still, Diane's argument that electric power in transmission
is a quasi-public good sounded fine to me. Indeed, even at the
distribution stage the same can be argued based on
excludability/rivalry. For this, one has to distinguish between usage
and demand. If somehow I manage to use electricity without paying for
it, it is pure usage, not demand in economic terms. My usage becomes
demand if you can determine how much I used so that you can charge me.
People "steal" electricity regularly in Turkey (maybe Patrick Bond would
offer some information about a similar phenomenon in South Africa) not
only because they cannot pay for it but also because it is very
difficult to determine who is stealing how much, although you can
determine how much was stolen. 

And in this market, at least temporally (Or was it inter-temporally or
dynamically or whatever? You economists are not only confused but also
confusing) supply matches usage, not demand.

Best,

Sabri

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