it's my term: credit belongs to Steve Lopez, a columnist for the LA TIMES. 
 
I don't think it's good form to make fun of anyone's appearance, unless they're 
someone powerful like Arnold. Maria Shriver is not powerful.
Jim

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        From: Dan Scanlan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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        der Gropenfuehrer
        
        I like this term. It's a good one to use for a hands-on governor.
        Cartoonist Dan O'Neill points out in his latest strip that der
        Gropenfuerhrer (Jim's term, not Dan's) is married to the only Kennedy
        with a mustache.
        
        Dan Scanlan
        


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