sorry forgot the links!

http://www.statistics.gov.uk/downloads/theme_economy/ESA95_Exhaustiveness.pdf

more statistical fun:

"Prostitution itself is not illegal within the UK.
However, most of the activities associated with
prostitution (e.g. soliciting) are illegal. Value added
from prostitution would generally be income from
self-employment (mixed income) in the household sector.
However, this is also difficult to measure since
prostitutes are not usually registered as businesses
and it seems unlikely that good quality data could be
collected from household surveys.

[...]

Imports and exports of prostitution services should in
principle be picked up by the International
Passenger Survey (although not as expenditure on
prostitution) with the expenditure already recorded in
the national accounts."

Note that Doug would need to modify his position that
you can carry out all the radical analysis you need by
making use of modified bourgeois statistics in this
case as the UK does not actually collect information on
the size of the drugs, prostitution or illegal gambling
markets; the only crime we incorporate in the figures
is smuggling.  Some South American countries do attempt
to estimate the size of the cocaine trade on the basis
that their capital a/c would make just no f'kng sense
at all if they didn't.

cheers

dd


also this one

http://www.oecd.org/dataoecd/17/34/2665863.pdf

On Mon, 8 Mar 2004 06:10:25 -0800,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>
> On Mon, 8 Mar 2004 16:00:23 +0300, "Chris Doss" wrote:
>
> >
> > Does anybody know how per capita income figures are
> > usually calculated for countries like Russia, which
> > have a large shadow economy in which workers are
paid
> > under the table and off the books? Thanks.
>
> Not actually as uncommon as you'd think; Spain and
> Italy have big off-the-books sectors.  Basically, you
> estimate, estimate, estimate.  Double-check with
> criminal authorities, carry out surveys, etc.  Also
> cross-check with observable facts; ie, you know how
> many buildings are going up, you know how many
brickies
> it takes, so you can guesstimate how many are employed
> in the building trade.  Then you use an econometric
> model going forward, to scale up the ongoing inome
> numbers based on the last time you did a proper check.
> It's a bit of a black art but by no means the most
> difficult thing a national statistics agency does.
>
> Here's a bit & piece by the UK Office of National
> Statistics.  To be honest the final chapter is the
> funniest (sample text "Under ESA95 the sale of illegal
> drugs should be treated in the same way as the sale of
> legal goods. They are imported or produced within the
> UK, sold through a chain of dealers (each adding their
> own margin), and eventually sold to a final
> consumer.").  But there's some stuff on the issues
> you're looking for too.
>
> cheers
>
> dd
>
> >
> > Official income figures for Russia have always
baffled
> > me. How do you calculate them when underreporting of
> > incomes is rampant in the private sector?

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