"Devine, James" wrote:

Quoting someone:
>
> > Some folks sititng in university offices in the United States often will

And there are some folks who never choose to argue with specific
arguments from specific opponents. They prefer to set up ghostly (and
mostly nonexistent) opponents with silly arguments. It so simplifies
life if one never needs to confront actual postions held by acutal
people who are actually present in the conversation but can carry on
this ghostly argument with "some people."

I agree with Jim's actual arguments, but he will never get a reply to
those arguments. "Someone" will invent another ghostly "someone"
somewhere to reply to.

Carrol

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