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Carrol writes: 
> Kerry has really put himself out on a limb, virtually 
> promising to widen
> the war without limit in order to "stay the course." I don't think the
> present administration has the nerve or the political muscle 
> to do that. A DP president might.
> 
> Emphasize _might_; in general I think leftists should simply ignore the
> presidency and go about our proper business of doing out best to build
> mass movements on whatever terrain the enemy creates for us. That is,
> the presidency, like the Rockies for Lewis and Clark, are just part of
> the terrain we have to deal with.

in an earlier message today, he wrote:
>The first steps in getting a non-Bush president in 2112
or so is to run a Nader campaign that seriously damages Kerry, at the
same time building the foundations for a larger anti-war movement in
2005 -- since it's fairly obvious that in international affairs Kerry is
the greater evil.<

Is the Nader campaign the best way to build the mass movements we need? especially 
considering the fact that Nader is going to run it? 

Might it make more sense to simply ignore the presidential election (as Carrol's first 
  comment above suggests), leaving the issue of actual voting to each individual's 
conscience (since it won't have much effect anyway)? 

I know that even if I end up voting for Kerry (it depends on how the anti-depressants 
are working), I'd never put a Kerry sticker on my car. It's similar for Nader. Rather, 
the sticker would be anti-war. Period.

(I'm a one sticker guy, unlike a lot of leftists around here.  I recently saw a car 
that had lefty political stickers _on all non-window surfaces_! I guess Bondo is too 
expensive.)
jd 

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