for them, it's not a problem.
 
Jim Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://bellarmine.lmu.edu/~jdevine 

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From: PEN-L list on behalf of Gassler Robert
Sent: Fri 7/16/2004 12:03 AM
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Subject: Re: [PEN-L] Hawking black hole



If I sent a note to the American Economic Association and said 'I have solved the 
neoclassical autism problem and I want to talk about it' do you think they'd buy it, 
and just go on my reputation?

Guess not.

>NewScientist.com
>
>Hawking cracks black hole paradox
>19:00 14 July 04
>Exclusive from New Scientist Print Edition.
>
>
>After nearly 30 years of arguing that a black hole destroys
>everything that falls into it, Stephen Hawking is saying he was
>wrong. It seems that black holes may after all allow information
>within them to escape. Hawking will present his latest finding at a
>conference in Ireland next week.
>
>The about-turn might cost Hawking, a physicist at the University of
>Cambridge, an encyclopaedia because of a bet he made in 1997. More
>importantly, it might solve one of the long-standing puzzles in
>modern physics, known as the black hole information paradox.
>
>It was Hawking's own work that created the paradox. In 1976, he
>calculated that once a black hole forms, it starts losing mass by
>radiating energy. This "Hawking radiation" contains no information
>about the matter inside the black hole and once the black hole
>evaporates, all information is lost.
>
>But this conflicts with the laws of quantum physics, which say that
>such information can never be completely wiped out. Hawking's
>argument was that the intense gravitational fields of black holes
>somehow unravel the laws of quantum physics.
>
>Other physicists have tried to chip away at this paradox. Earlier in
>2004, Samir Mathur of Ohio State University in Columbus and his
>colleagues showed that if a black hole is modelled according to
>string theory - in which the universe is made of tiny, vibrating
>strings rather than point-like particles - then the black hole
>becomes a giant tangle of strings. And the Hawking radiation emitted
>by this "fuzzball" does contain information about the insides of a
>black hole (New Scientist print edition, 13 March).
>
>
>Big reputation
>
>Now, it seems that Hawking too has an answer to the conundrum and the
>physics community is abuzz with the news. Hawking requested at the
>last minute that he be allowed to present his findings at the 17th
>International Conference on General Relativity and Gravitation in
>Dublin, Ireland.
>
>"He sent a note saying 'I have solved the black hole information
>paradox and I want to talk about it'," says Curt Cutler, a physicist
>at the Albert Einstein Institute in Golm, Germany, who is chairing
>the conference's scientific committee. "I haven't seen a preprint [of
>the paper]. To be quite honest, I went on Hawking's reputation."
>
>Though Hawking has not yet revealed the detailed maths behind his
>finding, sketchy details have emerged from a seminar Hawking gave at
>Cambridge. According to Cambridge colleague Gary Gibbons, an expert
>on the physics of black holes who was at the seminar, Hawking's black
>holes, unlike classic black holes, do not have a well-defined event
>horizon that hides everything within them from the outside world.
>
>In essence, his new black holes now never quite become the kind that
>gobble up everything. Instead, they keep emitting radiation for a
>long time, and eventually open up to reveal the information within.
>"It's possible that what he presented in the seminar is a solution,"
>says Gibbons. "But I think you have to say the jury is still out."
>
>
>Forever hidden
>
>At the conference, Hawking will have an hour on 21 July to make his
>case. If he succeeds, then, ironically, he will lose a bet that he
>and theoretical physicist Kip Thorne of the California Institute of
>Technology (Caltech) in Pasadena made with John Preskill, also of
>Caltech.
>
>They argued that "information swallowed by a black hole is forever
>hidden, and can never be revealed".
>
>"Since Stephen has changed his view and now believes that black holes
>do not destroy information, I expect him [and Kip] to concede the
>bet," Preskill told New Scientist. The duo are expected to present
>Preskill with an encyclopaedia of his choice "from which information
>can be recovered at will".
>
>
>Jenny Hogan
>

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