I appreciate Michael's intent to keep order, although I didn't especially
mind your barb; I've seen you much less restrained. But I don't understand
your angry reply. Why is it ok for you to call me "a trade union functionary
for 25 years" (actually 20, I was previously a steward in the Steelworkers
and an SEIU organizer) and then take umbrage at my including you within the
intelligensia? I didn't mean this latter to be insulting but descriptive,
incidentally; I was a doctoral student before going into industry, so that
could describe my background equally well.

For certain, my experience negotiating and administering contracts and
contact with trade  unionists at all levels has been critical in shaping my
views. Why do you suppose your immersion in the New York left intellectual
milieu has not had a similar effect on your own, but so what? I take that
into account in weighing your contributions, but still think your arguments
have to be dealt with on their merits. I trust you feel the same way.

Marv Gandall


----- Original Message -----
From: "Louis Proyect" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2004 2:03 PM
Subject: Re: [PEN-L] An emerging labor-led left in the DP?


> Michael Perelman wrote:
> > There is no need to get personal!
> >
>
> Well, I was highly insulted by all that stuff about intellectuals. How
> dare anybody refer to me in those terms. If he was not referring to me,
> then all is forgiven.
>
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