On Mar 15, 2008, at 1:41 PM, Max B. Sawicky wrote:


http://www.pajamasmedia.com/2008/03/obamanomics_hope_has_a_plan.php

Rejected by some fine liberal outlets.  I'd have put it on TPM Cafe,
but Josh doesn't pay.  Doesn't need to, really.  Pajamas does.

Remember, I have said there wasn't that much difference between HRC and BHO on paper. The main point of this is that BHO is not some right- deviationist.


I won't argue the economics with you since I am sure you (or almost anyone!) are better at it than I am. However, there are multiple dangers with the Obama hype. One is already manifest: the Obama campaign has managed to kill off the only viable candidate who (IMHO) was talking about class and economic issues in a meaningful sense (even if protectionist, etc). And the way this happened is the real clue to the danger: not through any serious adoption or even co-opting of the platform but through the audacity of hype. Stuff such as "this campaign is about you", "change", "post-partisanship", etc, etc. And this effect, the post everything rhetoric, shows up over and over again in the rhetoric of the fanboys and fangirls (read for instance the hit jobs by various media post-feminist fangirls), trivialising deep problems that are nowhere close to solution.

Indeed, I too believe there is not a lot of difference between Obama and Clinton... I would even say whatever difference there is (politically, morally), it is to Obama's favour. But the educated, young, liberal Obama lovefest paired with the rhetoric and messianic conviction(s) of their hero, will result, I am afraid, in a hangover that the rest of the nation (and world!) cannot afford to wake up with.


Campaign platforms aside, I would suggest that in the past month the HRC campaign has revealed its political and moral character better than any platform analysis could illuminate. And in those terms there should be little debate over who
is more liberal, for whatever that's worth.


I am not sure how you define "liberal" (some in the left use it as a term of opprobrium), but I am not sure I see anything particularly revealing in the past month of the HRC campaign. The Obama camp contortions to have it both ways ("the people's will has to be upheld" bullshit coupled with "well, we really mean delegates, but no superdelegates" weaselling, as wonderfully demonstrated by Tom Daschle on Meet The Press) in the last month have been amusing, OTOH.

A few points from what I have read but rarely hear in the media: (a) while Obama did not put his name on the Michigan ballot, not counting Wyoming/Mississippi (whose vote counts I do not have at my fingertips) Hillary actually was leading in the popular vote. (b) Democratic primary voters in Florida where disenfranchised by the actions of the Republican controlled state government. (c) it would be interesting to know what Obama's popular vote tally would be if the "independent" and Republican votes were taken out.

        --ravi


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