I think the usage of "we" needs to be attended to. "We" should never be
used in a way that links in _objective_ solidarity the population and
"The State." We did not invade Vietnam. The U.S. _State_ invaded
Vietnam, dragging a majority of 'us' in its wake, but that does not
justify using "We" to describe the u.s. activity abroad.

Carrol

Sandwichman wrote:
> 
> On 3/21/08, Robert Naiman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Nope. I sure don't.
> >
> >  And even if I did, somehow other countries manage to survive without
> >  doing this, at least not on the same scale, and I don't see their
> >  governments collapsing. If we could get down to say, British or
> >  Canadian incarceration rates, that would be a big step forward.
> 
> I meant useful to the state (not to folks) and to perpetuating the
> distinctive kind of "national security" regime that prevails in the
> USA. Sure, Canada and the UK have lower incarceration rates but how
> many overseas military garrisons do they maintain? Perhaps I could sum
> up my point with the slogan: "occupation begins at home".
> 
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