Greetings Economists,
On May 3, 2008, at 5:45 PM, Carrol Cox wrote:

No. Fidelity came in when 33x REPALCED 78s. 78s had been standard for
decades.

Doyle;
78s with high fidelity were a post WWII innovation. 78s were around before 'fidelity' happened. 33s were albums and a new marketing gimmick. Before WWII the equipment was not high fidelity, and it was the relative wealth of post WWII that founded audiophile tastes.

Doug,
Yeah. Good sound, fluent presentation, knowing what you're talking about, good musical interludes - all just bourgeois crap, right? Bad sound, stumbling speech, ignorant ranting, and "pamphletismo" music (a term I learned from Ned Sublette) - that's proof of authenticity. Produces those giant audiences Pacifica is famous for.

Doyle;
This is your pain button responding. We are not really talking technology this way. Your point is a stance about what radio ought to be. MP3 is a mass medium that kids use in their communities without special attention to fidelity. You don't mention social software, so your view of radio is like what a good broadcast is. That is eroded by the net, as you already point out by making this about fidelity. But for example KPFA has a big market on the internet already and growing. So fidelity is not really the issue in 'good' radio, it's the technology of mass distribution and what exchange of files means.

To be honest, I think my way is a great organizers stance. More community participating in the product, wider and shallower information like Wikipedia. Gradually as the process matures it creates stronger ties than stars do. Is Doug Henwood a star, well not in the way broadcast media is measured. So I am not casting aspersions on Doug.

But the sort of community ties I want to see building a mass movements just can't be made by your model. It is true things now are in their infancy, but you acknowledge some of my points by maintaining your distribution list. It functions for a small audience. Yet the contributers are talented above average people. Not stars mostly either.

Fidelity is a non issue about radio. It functioned decades ago as a marketing of 78s. Audiophiles are not a big market and don't influence sound at all.
Doyle
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