On Jun 3, 2008, at 9:36 AM, Louis Proyect wrote:
But really, if the archives are rendering format-flowed as a run-on line (i.e., they are marking it up as preformatted text, e.g using "<pre>") then they really need to be fixed to not do that... hardly anyone (including me?) honours the 78-character width rule any more with hard returns.

Archiving software generally does not allow such tailoring. What gives you the impression that it does?


Despite being written in Python ;-), Mailman is a fairly decent piece of software, so I would have guessed they would handle these things right. I just checked one more thing: while my mailer does set Content- Type to format=flowed (telling the reader side mail client to cause the text to flow), Yahoo WebMail (which Sabri uses) doesn't seem to, setting Content-Type to just text/plain. Which is not surprising from Yahoo and I heartily second your suggestion to Sabri to get the hell away from Yahoo (I believe you put it more politely ;-) -- I personally think webmail should be banned except for emergency/mobile use... if you want to read/send mail use a mail client not a web browser!).

Here's what is happening (I think): the Mailman archiver wraps the entire message in <pre> tags (to preserve text formatting, I suppose). Yahoo WebMail sends the message out as one continuous line so it gets rendered as such. My mailer sends the text format=flowed i.e., it adds a space and newline/carriage-return at the end of each line, so the <pre> renders it correctly.

Given that Mailman is Python, we can hack it to be cleverer about this sort of thing... that's what I meant in my earlier message.

        --ravi

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