Nice point, and interesting to think about, as is often true for Ted.  Any 
reason not to attribute this to Engels rather than Marx ( who was dead in 1886) 
Engels wrote that book.

"greed and lust for power — which, since the emergence of class antagonisms, 
serve as levers of historical development"; this is what was interesting to me.

Charles

^^^^^


From: Ted Winslow 


There is no good capitalism, as far as I am concerned. 

That was my point. 

The bad can be productive of good as in the role Marx, like Hegel, assigns to 
the "passions."

"Feuerbach, who on every page preaches sensuousness, absorption in the 
concrete, in actuality, becomes thoroughly abstract as soon as he begins to 
talk of any other than mere sex relations between human beings.
"Of these relations, only one aspect appeals to him: morality. And here we are 
again struck by Feuerbach's astonishing poverty when compared to Hegel. The 
latter's ethics, or doctrine of moral conduct, is the philosophy of right, and 
embraces: (1) abstract right; (2) morality; (3) social ethics [Sittlichkeit], 
under which are comprised: the family, civil society, and the state.
"Here the content is as realistic as the form is idealistic. With Feuerbach, it 
is just the reverse. ...
"He appears just as shallow, in comparison with Hegel, in his treatment of the 
antithesis of good and evil.
"One believes one is saying something great," Hegel remarks, "if one says that 
'man is naturally good'. But one forgets that one says something far greater 
when one says 'man is naturally evil'."
"With Hegel, evil is the form in which the motive force of historical 
development presents itself. This contains the twofold meaning that, on the one 
hand, each new advance necessarily appears as a sacrilege against things 
hallowed, as a rebellion against condition, though old and moribund, yet 
sanctified by custom; and that, on the other hand, it is precisely the wicked 
passions of man — greed and lust for power — which, since the emergence of 
class antagonisms, serve as levers of historical development — a fact of which 
the history of feudalism and of the bourgeoisie, for example, constitutes a 
single continual proof. But it does not occur to Feuerbach to investigate the 
historical role of moral evil. To him, history is altogether an uncanny domain 
in which he feels ill at ease. Even his dictum: 'Man as he sprang originally 
from nature was only a mere creature of nature, not a man. Man is a product of 
man, of culture, of history' — with him, even this dictum remains absolutely 
sterile."
<http://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1886/ludwig-feuerbach/ch03>



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