Greetings Economists,
On Jun 15, 2008, at 5:35 AM, Doug Henwood wrote:

Yeah, there was a depression and a world war. Does that mean there will be another? Is that some generalized model, or just a one-off? Who knows?

Doyle
Crisis is interesting in the sense that Marx thought crisis was built into the system, and Lenin used crisis in Russia to make a left shift. The thesis is easy to summarize and meets common sense. Crisis brings on liquidity in the political consensus. Which moves when say monarchy structures crumble during WWI. The British retained their monarchy though.

While I don't agree with your discount of crisis, I admit you have shifted me thinking I think for the good. I think the U.S. faces a crisis now, of which Bush's failures are the most public record.

But unlike 1914, massed armies cannot be used to re-align global power. I.E. technology makes massed armies useless as a tool of creative destruction.

The political tool Lenin had doesn't exist anymore. Big armies rife with the killing fields mentality, and rejection of order, have gone with the wind. Armies exist, Iraq was conquered, but weakness in imperial dreams still appears.

It is also easy to say that neo-liberalism is crumbling. The pillars of U.S. power are not sufficient to run forever.

What is the left target then? I think Ravi makes the point it is cultural. What is culture? Why would it be a left tool? That needs debate I think because one can easily see barriers, and promises, and no clarity about what to do. But still if one says environment is a major problem, then culture is at the heart of a solution. And crisis runs the show.
thanks,
Doyle Saylor
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