Even if the Krug were a little bit right, he wouldn't deserve
any credit for it. It would just be a coincidence.

He is bitter that *his* fantasy progressive
candidate, HRC, didn't win, and mad that no-one
listened to him.

His big argument for why HRC was more prog than BO
on health care was that BO wouldn't support a mandate.

Dean argued on his blog at the time that while he agreed
in principle on the mandate, Krug was blowing the
distinction out of proportion, given that HRC gave no
specifics on how her mandate would work and BO
agreed that there needed to be policies to coax people
into the pool.

I would go one further, noting that experience with
actually-existing health care reform has made a lot
of people who have worked on health care
reform wary about mandates.

They worry that actually-existing mandates to acquire
insurance that was supposed to be affordable and
comprehensive have turned out to be mandates to acquire
insurance that was neither affordable nor comprehensive.

It's not obvious that such a mandate is just.

On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 8:35 PM, Max B. Sawicky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I would say slightly less progressive than HRC on health, slightly more on
> most everything else,
> especially Social Security.
>
>
> ravi wrote:
>>
>>
>> http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/06/16/mundus-vult-decipi-ergo-decipiatur/
>>
>>> Look, Obama didn't pose as a Nation-type progressive, then turn on his
>>> allies after the race was won. Throughout the campaign he was slightly less
>>> progressive than Hillary Clinton on domestic issues — and more than slightly
>>> on health care. If people like Ms. Klein are shocked, shocked that he isn't
>>> the candidate of their fantasies, they have nobody but themselves to blame.
>>
>> I think the Krug is a bit right! A lot of young people have projected a
>> lot of their own ideals on to Obama, but the man himself has (a) been fairly
>> non-committal on progressive issues and (b) explicitly centrist in his
>> primary aim of "uniting" the red and blue states (as he writes in his
>> letter, to my three year old, seeking cash).
>>
>>    --ravi
>>
>>
>> P.S: I did listen to a speech (and read some material) of his
>> post-the-booting-out-of-HRC and he did have some progressive meat:
>> progressive taxation, elimination of "pre-existing condition" exclusions
>> from healthcare coverage, etc.
>>
>> BTW, has anyone here read the Irving Wallace fiction "The Man"?
>>
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