Greetings Economists,
On Oct 5, 2008, at 7:17 PM, Jim Devine wrote:

The realist view is that the
outside world exists independent of our perception of it.

Doyle;
Independent of our perceptions? Our perceptions are of the same material as the rest. They are interconnected. That is the realist stance. There is no independence or autonomy of perception. An error is not autonomous, nor is perception anything but material.

The reason for saying this is the conceptual problem with independence that makes the statement that being wrong (deluded, or alienated) or apart from existence implies a 'real' unbridgeable gap. That is Cartesian duality. And duality is not realism.

To illustrate the problem tell me what is the independent mean? In a material sense?
thanks,
Doyle Saylor
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