On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 8:48 PM, Perelman, Michael
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I don't recall if Robert Gordon's article was posted earlier, but it is
> relevant to the discussion.
>
> http://www.prospect.org/cs/articles?article=did_liberals_cause_the_subprime_crisis


Shemano was responding to this in the April post.

He falls back here on some argument about general subsidy of home
ownership--doesn't explain why the bubble occurred in this particular
moment--and merely insinuates the more problematic arguments about the
removal of anti-redlining laws that he made in March:

<on March 11, DAVID SHEMANO SAID:>
prior to anti-redlining laws, there was absolutely no difference in
the default rates between white and black borrowers, so even assuming
bankers discriminated based upon race (which I am willing to assume
for purposes of discussion), the discrimination was evident the
bankers were doing what they were supposed to be doing -- making
creditworthy loans.  If we make the collective decision, through our
government, to require bankers to make loans to people who are going
to default at higher rates, that is fine, but let's be clear in
understanding the consequences.
<END QUOTE>

In this, he buys completely the line of Liebowitz, which is to
insinuate that there was some objective measure of creditworthiness
that mapped fairly clearly onto race and that the discrimination that
existed was valid on objective terms,
--that the Fed reports in 1992 were motivated by bad data (race only
figures "for purposes of discussion")
--by extension that the changes at the CRA and the faulty Fed paper
are solely responsible for the weakening of standards, a process which
was motivated by bleeding heart liberal thinking on diversity, etc.
(though now we drop the race issue because, in actuality it WORKED to
increase home ownership for people who were, evidently, being
discriminated against based either on the "objective" understanding of
creditworthiness or the "speculative" subjective understanding of
racially motivated redlining)
--And so we shift back to the argument that, though there is some
recent changes to the banking industry, recent events in the world
financial markets and in the global investment boom in real estate,
the real issue is this general loosening of standards (or the
"Subsidizing of housing for people who couldn't afford it" as opposed
to eliminating the discriminatory lending practices.
--Doug's valid point about this as a political strategy, in place of
actual gains in wages or social safety net would fall on deaf ears for
Shemano because he doesn't think it should do that either.  It would
just create distortions of a different kind, upsetting the natural
liberty and freedom of the market by, again, forcing the owners of
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