On Tue, 2008-10-07 at 13:42 -0700, Jim Devine wrote: > It's not the only number. the establishment survey's employment > numbers get a lot of press, since it seems to be a better gauge of the > employment situation than the official unemployment rate. These days, > the number of discouraged workers has also gotten more attention than > in the past. This seems partly a result of Greenspan.
I provided facts, I asked questions: - why 60% difference for OECD normalized unemployment with same employment in men 25-54 USA vs France at the same date? - why 30% difference for unemployment with same employment in men 25-54 USA vs USA some years ago? You have an easy way to be constructive here: where are the papers discussing those striking data point? (vs the number of papers using unemployment within country or between countries) > In the household survey, the employment numbers are based on the > answers given by those questioned. So they are just as (un)reliable as > those about unemployment (as defined officially). The employment > numbers from the establishment survey may be better, but the same > worker can be counted twice or more as employed (because he or she > moonlights). So we have two mostly independant ways to measure employment, and only one way to measure unemployment. What does that fact says? > Population numbers tend to miss the homeless, undocumented workers, > and the like. They are estimates. I don't think monthly numbers exist > for the population, either. Rather, what we see are interpolations. Nice strawman, I never said the confidence interval was zero for population or employment or income. You didn't answer about measuring human psychology vs mere existence. Which one is likely to be more accurate? > > Your paragraph is in the category "total joke". > > Your stooping to insult reflects badly on you, not me. You should sit > down and take a stress pill, Dave. It must be my hard science background, I have far too much respect for facts and measures. Laurent _______________________________________________ pen-l mailing list [email protected] https://lists.csuchico.edu/mailman/listinfo/pen-l
