agree with all the follow-up comments on this. i would just add to michael's point that it's even worse when you're talking about one course, or even two courses. people will move for one-year full-time positions, but not for a course.
i'm of two minds about the departmental community part. on the one hand, you don't want to feel like you're not a "real" member of the department; on the other, you're not, and it seems a bit much to expect that kind of participation out of adjuncts who aren't given a meaningful stake in the proceedings. On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 6:52 PM, Perelman, Michael <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > Also adjuncts, through no fault of their own, are not really part of the > departmental community. People in my department press to get permanent > faculty, even though the presence of the adjuncts makes it easier for > the permanent faculty to get the plum courses. > > Also, here in Chico, far away from major academic communities, the > ability to get high-quality adjuncts is limited. People were unlikely to > move here just to get a one-year contract. > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jim Devine > Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2008 9:41 AM > To: Progressive Economics > Subject: Re: [Pen-l] Wal-Mart employees better off than adjunct > professors > > Jeffrey Fisher com> wrote: > > in my experience, when tenured faculty oppose hiring adjuncts, it is > > precisely because they think it's exploitative and, simultaneously, > gets in > > the way of making a case for FT and tenure line slots. i might > disagree with > > the strategy, depending on the seriousness of the case, but the > principle is > > hardly one of exploitation. > > Also, departments sometimes oppose hiring adjuncts because it > undermines the quality of teaching. This is not because of the quality > of available adjuncts. Rather, it's because the pay is so low that the > good ones don't want to work for it. At least that's the experience at > LMU. (In some fields, like philosophy and history, however, the > unemployment is so bad that even high-quality teachers are willing to > work for the offered pittance. In economics, the market is better > (from the job-seeker's perspective) so that the quality of the skills > of those who want to jump through hoops for peanuts is much lower.) > > Collectively, faculty oppose hiring adjuncts because it "lowers > standards" and undermines the status & power of tenured folks. It's > like a two-tiered contract, which almost all labor unions oppose. > -- > Jim Devine / "Nobody told me there'd be days like these / Strange > days indeed -- most peculiar, mama." -- JL. > _______________________________________________ > pen-l mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.csuchico.edu/mailman/listinfo/pen-l > _______________________________________________ > pen-l mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.csuchico.edu/mailman/listinfo/pen-l >
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