fry a man a fish and he'll die of cholesterol poisoning. On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 9:28 AM, Max B. Sawicky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > My personal variation: > > Give a man a fish today, and he will still be hungry tomorrow. > > Teach a man to fish, and he will say, why can't you give me another fish? > > > thus spake Maxathrustra. > > > ravi wrote: >> >> On Oct 20, 2008, at 11:42 AM, David B. Shemano wrote: >>> >>> Ravi writes: >>> >>>>> Remember that old patronising conservative bit about giving a man a >>>>> fish, etc? >>> >>> I believe that "old patronising conservative bit" is a paraphrase of >>> Maimonides (http://www.charitywatch.org/articles/eightrungs.html), so are >>> you saying that Maimonides was a conservative as we now think of >>> conservatives? Was the "bit" a good idea in a pre-capitalist society, but >>> became patronizing in a capitalist society? >>> >> >> The linked to web page lists a ladder of increasing virtue when it comes >> to "giving". Some (perhaps me!) would argue that "giving" is indeed a >> "conservative" idea i.e., that we live in an environment where many are in >> need of the "charity" of others. And with regards to Maimonides ladder, I do >> think that #8 has an internal logical error, and it contradicts the >> implication of #1 -- (a) the assumption that human beings are or can be >> "self-reliant", and (b) if one is to give without grudge and without >> imposing shame on the recipient, then one should not make the assumption >> that one knows best or needs to judge how another can become "self-reliant". >> That's his or her quest. >> >> --ravi >> >> -- >> Geekery: http://ahren.org/code/ Please support: >> Inanities: http://ravi.tumblr.com/ http://www.peta.org/ >> Opinion: http://0sum.org/ http://greenpeace.org/ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> pen-l mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://lists.csuchico.edu/mailman/listinfo/pen-l >> >> > > > _______________________________________________ > pen-l mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.csuchico.edu/mailman/listinfo/pen-l >
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