On Nov 4, 2008, at 6:13 PM, McDonough, Terrence wrote:
Since the end of WWII capitalist growth has been about blunting redistributionist demands with increases in consumption all around (though unequally). Current grievances centre around global neoliberalism's abandonment of this kind of growth and the stagnation of middle income living standards. This kind of growth cannot be resurrected. Growth generally depends on increased throughput from the environment. This has long ago reached its sustainable limit. Jim is right that the exception to this is energy from the sun. However, advances in the ability to harness this are unlikely to more than offset the necessary reduction in the burning of carbon compounds. Further any success in increasing output will have to be concentrated in less developed countries in exchange for their cooperation in curtailing global warming.


Yes, thank you for stating that better than I did. That's what I was getting at, and would have tried to convey again in a response to Jim. I may also have pointed out that sufficient levels of marshalling the energy from the sun (direct and not reflected off the earth) will no doubt have its own impact on the environment and other species, but perhaps that will sidetrack the discussion again.

        --ravi

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