[quote] it's really ONLY possible to talk about progress coming from genuine sites of countervailing power, which would be national states once they are under left (or even centre-left) control... Cheers, Patrick [end quote] COMMENT: I hope it does not sound like hair splitting (as in Bill Clinton’s famous question “what is _is_ ?”), but a definition of political-economic progress should, at this day and age, include “green” (environmental) progress, instead of sticking to a more traditional leftist concept of progress. Hans Ehrbar wrote in that sense on pen-l a few weeks or months ago. You can count environmentalism as an additional countervailing power to the status quo. N'est-ce pas? Gernot _________________________________________________________________
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