From: Carrol Cox 

> 
> From: Ann Davis
> 
> I agree with Terry's statement above. But where do we go for recent Marxian 
> analysis of the state?
> 
> ^^^^
> 
> http://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1917/staterev/ 

^^^^^


^^^

Oh come on Charles. 

^^^^
CB: Carrol ( a man, for Ann Davis' information)  I get so tired of the kind of 
stupid response from you. You do it all the time.  The idea that Lenin's 
writing is "out of date dogma" is pretty much spent and disproven. Look at 
what's happening before your very eyes, and stop repeating formulas you came up 
with twenty years ago.

^^^^

Yes, it's an interesting book,

^^
CB: I didn't post that because it's an interesting book . What a nitwit 
comment.  It is still the _main_ "Marxian", as the questioner asked, thesis on 
the state, besides Engels' _The Origin of the Family, Private Property and the 
State_ . In case you didn't know it in your Marxian thinking, the state has 
been around for eons, and its essential nature as the tool of the ruling class 
has not changed. So, the "Marxian" conception of the state has not changed, 
since 1917. There is no more "recent" Marxian idea of the state.

^^^^^

 and like almost
_everything_ Lenin wrote (including casual private letters) it is a
model for political focus, for living the instruction of the
civil-rights song, Keep your eye on the prize.

But it is ridiculjous to cite it as a "recent marxist analysis of the
state."

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CB: There haven't been anymore recent fundamental discussions of the "Marxian" 
conception of the state since _The State and Revolution_.

^^^^^

 From that perspective it is little more than a preliminary to an
introduction to a prologomena to a marxist provisional analysis of the
state.

^^^
CB: That's complete nonsense.

 No your comment is ridiculous, and these types of comments by you are always 
ridiculous and not at all helpful to someone who seems to being trying to learn 
some basics about Marxism , as this questioner was. You act like an 
anti-Marxist most of the time with your confusing  misleading ,  off the wall, 
ultra-left non-Marxist discussion.  Get it together.

Charles 

Carrol






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