Charles writes:

> Speaking of papering over real conflicts,
> isn't
> super-strong stimulus plan/temporarily
> "nationalizing" banks papering
> over the real class
> conflict ?


--- On Sat, 2/14/09, Marvin Gandall <[email protected]> wrote:

> ==============================
> Surprising stance from you, Charles.
> 
> Did you ask your congressional rep to 
oppose a stimulus
> plan, especially a
> "super-strong one"?

^^^^^
CB: I didn't speak with her, but if
I had I'd advise ok for her to propose strong
stimulus , but adhere to Party discipline
follow the Pres' lead after any discussion,
even if his stimulus is not as strong.

Your reply is a little
misleading. Above, I'm not opposing 
super-strong stimulus plan/temporarily
> "nationalizing" banks
I'm criticizing some Pen-Lers
posturing as lefter then O,because
he is calling for broad mass unity
(calling it papering over conflict)
when Keynesienism papers over
class conflict, too. 

^^^
> 
> If there were a measure to nationalize a bank, would you
> oppose it? 

^^^^
CB: No, but I would advise against
calling it "nationalization'. 
Call it "Americanization", or
some other "blue" word. Name
 the new bank "United States Bank"
or the like. 

Also, use Eminent Domain. Since
there is payment, just compensation
would be satisfied, and no
Takings Clause problem .

However, Pen-L and mass media
progressive/Keynesian economists should
make proposals in a friendly manner
to Obama, as in a Popular Front.
Not as the tone predominates on Pen-L.

Also, the Pen-L/progressive econs
should focus much more of their
sharp rhetoric directly on Wall Street
Masters of the Universe. Expose
Wall Street, Name more names.

As activists, economists should 
support mass
Marchs on Wall Street
and local Wall Streets.
That's the main class
struggle front, creditor
vs debtor.
^^^^

I think
> it would constitute progress to see an eventual debate open
> up in the States
> over whether a "temporarily" nationalized bank
> should be privatized than to
> not arrive at that point at all.

^^^^^^^

CB: It'd be fine. Maybe a Constitutional
Amendment to require "Americanization" or
some such of any bank or other company
"too big to fail".

As I say, I wasn't opposing these.
I was criticizing Pen-L anti-O rhetoric.

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