On Sun, Mar 29, 2009 at 1:05 PM, Jim Devine <[email protected]> wrote:
>> It doesn't seem probable that it would gain that
>> level of concentration of wealth by undertaking ventures in which the
>> odds of winning were not heavily in its favor. It would mostly likely
>> have become a "king" of the capitalist "hill" by taking many _low_
>> risk _ to itself_ actions. This is almost true by the definition of
>> the word "probable".  One probably gets rich by taking actions one is
>> probably going to win, not by taking actions that one is probably
>> going to lose. They make sure bets, not true bets.
>
> were they really taking risks? didn't they believe that the government
> was going to bail them out in the end? even without expecting
> bailouts, a lot of financiers were expecting (1) that the market would
> continue to go up but (2) if it didn't they'd be able to get out on
> time but (3) if they didn't get out on time they could still grant
> themselves bonuses or golden parachutes. Not much risk there.


Here, we have to separate the agent (traders, mortgage brokers, hedge
fund/private equity managers) from their principals (the investment
banks, hedge fund investors).

I understand that most of the IBs went from being partnerships to
public corporations in the last 25 years. It coincides with the time
that leveraging and risk-taking increased astronomically. So this is a
relatively recent phenomenon. Note also that Goldman Sachs - the last
of the IBs to go public - was also the one which protected itself most
vigorously.

It is not AIG or Lehman who are the monopoly capitalists. It is the
ruling elite that controls these institutions.
-raghu.


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Seeing is deceiving. It's eating that's believing.
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