No, it's not true that "real" (inflation-and deflation-corrected) values are 
an expression of use-value. "Real" values are an expression of exchange-
value, not use-value. If one doesn't correct for the general level of prices, 
then a financial figure is arbitrary. Use-values, by way of contrast, cannot 
generally be expressed in financial terms. 

For example, it's simply that not true that, comparing purchases that one has 
just made, that something one purchases for $100 necessarily has "10 times 
more" use-value than something one has bought for $10, or has infinitely more 
use-value than something that one has enjoyed without any cost at all.

And, for example, the attempt to measure environmental-value by a financial 
figure is one of the things that's wrong with carbon trading and the carbon 
tax.

--Joseph Green

Shane Mage wrote:
> 
> On Nov 9, 2009, at 2:44 PM, Jim Devine wrote:
> 
> > me:
> >> [no matter how it's corrected, GDP will continue to measure
> >> exchange-value but not use-value.]
> >
> > Shane Mage wrote:
> >> That's true of *nominal* GDP.  But "real" GDP purports to measure  
> >> use-value.<
> >
> > it purports to, but it doesn't really.
> >
> > More accurately, its those who see raising real GDP as a goal who see
> > it as somehow measuring "human welfare" (i.e., use-value).
> 
> 
> Use-value should not be associated with human welfare.  It is the  
> inseperable "heads" side of the coin "commodity" whose "tails" side is  
> exchange value.  Human welfare means so much more than commodity  
> consumption that "use-values" play only a minor, though basic, part in  
> it.  To state the commodity output of a given year in units expressing  
> how that output would have been valued by its users in some other year  
> (the meaning of real GDP) is to compare use-values.
> 
> 
> 
> Shane Mage
> 


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