On Jan 20, 2010, at 3:22 PM, Jim Devine wrote:

I don't think that members of the Chinese elite care about "national
prestige" except to the extent that it increases their power and
strengthens their hold on it.

Are you saying that the "Chinese elite" is exactly the same as every other ruling "elite" in the history of the world?


Shane Mage

This cosmos did none of gods or men make, but it
always was and is and shall be: an everlasting fire,
kindling in measures and going out in measures."

Herakleitos of Ephesos

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