Jim, Julio, and Rogoff are all correct.  So long as the banks are willing to 
supply credit, there is no immediate problem.  Once credit ceases, the 
sovereign debt crisis hits the fan.

Tom Palley just published something indicating that the sovereign debt crisis 
can be put off if the government just buys back depreciated paper, reducing the 
debt.  The problem would be generating new credit.

Michael Perelman
Economics Department
California State University
Chico, CA 95929

Tel. 530-898-5321
E-Mail michael at ecst.csuchico.edu
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Subject: [Pen-l] "Interests And Ideas" - Paul Krugman

Jim wrote:

> Julio Huato wrote:
>> economies have left behind high rates of indebtedness (private or
> public
>> doesn't really matter as much as some people think)<
>
> Actually, it does matter. Private corporations and individuals can go
> bankrupt, but a big strong organization such as the US government,
> with the power to tax and/or print money isn't going to do so during
> the foreseeable future. If we're worrying about the US economy's
> future, private-sector debt is much more of a threat.

I guess that is a fair point.  The state is the "concentration" of
society -- to use Marx's formula.  That is, the state can marshal a
degree of social cooperation that corporations can't and isolated
individuals exclude.  The U.S. government has ampler wiggle room,
although it may also dissolve -- hopefully after it serves its better
purposes.

Having said that, I was thinking of  Reinhart and Rogoff's papers,
which show rather remarkably *similar* economic experiences following
credit bubbles in the public or private sector -- or in both.
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