> There's something
> intuitive about it, but that isn't really good argument or good evidence,
> especially in the case of Plato, who, for all his faults, is very
> complicated (oh, wait, that's not a fault?!?). Trying to figure out "what
> *Plato* thought" is a fool's errand, imo. Much more interesting and fruitful
> to just work with what we get in the dialogues and learn what lessons we can
> from them. Plato's *influence* is a separate matter.

I agree that "what Plato really thought" is a fool's errand ... and
that it doesn't really matter whose ideas showed up in Plato's
dialogues. Perhaps they were written by a committee.

^^^^^
CB: Aren't Plato's ideas reflections of actual reality  ? Objective
reality is Ideas. Plato's ideas reflect the Ideal reality like shadows
on the wall of a cave.
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