Mike Ballard wrote:
> The way I see SS [social security, i.e., OASI] is that the working class 
> produces all the wealth outside of nature.  Its entitlement to retiring from 
> wage-slaving away for their whole lives is shored up by having some of that 
> wealth invested in government bonds.  That's what has happened.  We worked.  
> We put the money away via taxes.  We're entitled to all the wealth we 
> produce; but of course, the cappos disagree because they took risks with the 
> wealth we produced in the first place.  Are we that dumb?  If some cappos, 
> like say this Petersen fool, whine that we aren't 'entitled' to the funds in 
> SS because they ain't there because in turn, the cappos had to spend $12 
> trillion to 'save the economy' during the GFC, I say, "Fuck you assholes." <

I think that the discussion was not about whether oldsters are
entitled to SS benefits, since I'd guess that (with one possible
exception) everyone on pen-l would agree that they are entitled.
Rather, it's about whether or not it's feasible to pay them. If I
understand him correctly, John V. is suggesting that the trust fund
does not help with feasibility at all. I disagree.

By the way, I don't think Peterson is a "fool." Rather, he's a knave
(or worse).
-- 
Jim Devine / "Segui il tuo corso, e lascia dir le genti." (Go your own
way and let people talk.) -- Karl, paraphrasing Dante.
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