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Jim Devine <[email protected]> wrote: >On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 6:26 AM, Louis Proyect <[email protected]> wrote: >> On 6/21/11 6:52 AM, Julio Huato wrote: >>> Louis Proyect wrote: >>> >>>> Carter?!?!?! I give up... >>> >>> So, remind us: How many countries did Carter bomb, invade, and occupy? >> >> About the same as Gerald Ford. Ford and Carter operated under the >> constraints of the "Vietnam syndrome". Reagan's presidency was a direct >> challenge to the post-Vietnam consensus that military interventions >> could backfire. From Reagan through Clinton, the consensus in Washington >> changed to one of the feasibility of military intervention using local >> proxies or NATO, with the exception of the first Gulf war--a bipartisan >> affair. From Dubya through Obama, the pattern has been one of a >> readiness to put American boots on the ground. Of course, the >> differences between the two parties over war and peace is mostly for show. > >there is a difference: while the GOP of Bush #2 and after is more >unilateralist (requiring less help & consent from NATO and other >allies), Obama is more multilateralist. That's partly because #2 blew >it in Iraq (in military & diplomatic terms), stretching US military >resources too far (while largely forgetting what much of the elite >thought was more important, i.e., Afghanistan and al Qaeda). This is a >big difference inside the foreign-policy elite, though not for those >who the boots ground into the dirt. > >BTW, the elite's "post-Vietnam consensus" (that constrained Ford and >Carter) was based on its tactical/strategic defeat in Vietnam and the >popular resistance to further wars, including inside the rank and file >of the US armed forces. > >BTW2, Jimmy Carter has been a much much better ex-President than he >was a President, making his presidential years seem better in >retrospect. >-- >Jim Devine / "Segui il tuo corso, e lascia dir le genti." (Go your own >way and let people talk.) -- Karl, paraphrasing Dante. >_______________________________________________ >pen-l mailing list >[email protected] >https://lists.csuchico.edu/mailman/listinfo/pen-l _______________________________________________ pen-l mailing list [email protected] https://lists.csuchico.edu/mailman/listinfo/pen-l
