On Jul 22, 2011, at 4:19 PM, Gil Skillman wrote:

> Possibly, but I think we'd have to know more about the example (and about 
> how you're defining "speculative" here) to conclude this, and beyond this, 
> to conclude that it corresponded to surplus value.  Speculative 
> gain?  Depends on the conditions under which it was bought and sold, unless 
> any capital gain from the sale of an asset, however motivated, constitutes 
> speculation.  That the original X corresponds to capitalized value of the 
> expected future flow of rents makes sense, but that's not enough to 
> conclude that DX represents a chunk of surplus value, as Marx defined the 
> term.

Speculative = gain from change in asset prices, not interest or dividend.

A capitalized stream of bits of surplus value isn't SV, is it? It's a 
redistribution from one capitalist to another.

Doug
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