Dipping into "academic deconstructions" of Chapman's work seems a  real
distraction from WHAT? First of all I don't do academic deconstructions of
Chapman's work. I have constructed spreadsheets that use Chapman's theory to
test the kind of hypotheses that Jim Devine appears capable of deciding by
pulling answers out of the air: "if the productivity per hour of labor-power
hired rises, in  situations of low aggregate demand such as the present
capitalists will cut the number of hours of labor-power hired unless there
is also an increase in demand and thus real production..."

Much less of a distraction to engage in such speculative wool gathering than
to crank out numbers that can test various propositions!

"This true because total hours of labor-power employed = (output
sold)/(output/hours
employed), by definition... rising labor productivity would reduce the total
amount of hours to be redistributed." This NOT true because it imposes a
static short run constraint on a dynamic two-period model. To put it in
technical language, you are invoking not only the wages-fund doctrine but
the Harriet Martineau/John Weston rendition of the wages-fund doctrine. The
"distraction" of Chapman is precisely that his analysis throws a unforgiving
light on the pernicious but apparently quite seductive throwback to
pre-Marx, vulgar political economy.

On Sat, Jul 23, 2011 at 10:24 AM, Jim Devine <[email protected]> wrote:

> Dipping into academic deconstructions of Chapman's work seems a real
> distraction. As Shane Mage points out, the real issue is political.
>
> In any event, Tom (a.k.a., the Sandwichman) has agreed that no-one on
> pen-l has prohibited the discussion of cutting hours of labor, which
> was my point.
>
> in addition, Tom writes:
> >> current overwork actually depresses productivity and wages to the extent
> >> that total income for given hours may be LESS than it could be if people
> >> worked average annual hours more in line with the long term trend that
> >> prevailed up to the 1950s or even up to the 1980s.
>
> Of course, if the productivity per hour of labor-power hired rises, in
> situations of low aggregate demand such as the present capitalists
> will cut the number of hours of labor-power hired unless there is also
> an increase in demand and thus real production. This true because
> total hours of labor-power employed = (output sold)/(output/hours
> employed), by definition.  While it makes sense to cut hours of
> individual workers in order to give hours to the unemployed (a form of
> unemployment insurance), rising labor productivity would reduce the
> total amount of hours to be redistributed. (If the total number of
> hours hired falls, that puts more of a downward pressure on wages, by
> the way.) We have to be aware of such costs.
>
> It seems that Chapman assumes that we're at full employment, where the
> amount produced increases with the productivity of labor-power (since
> the number of hours hired is given).
>
> BTW, as a seeming effort to prove that Marx's CAPITAL is relevant, the
> big thing among management these days is increasing the amount of
> effort actually exerted during an hour of labor-power hired -- or
> having workers do their jobs during non-paid time. That raises labor
> productivity, which with given demand for the product, reduces the
> number of paid hours of labor-power hired.
> --
> Jim Devine / "Segui il tuo corso, e lascia dir le genti." (Go your own
> way and let people talk.) -- Karl, paraphrasing Dante.
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