Meanwhile, also at CounterPunch today was this from Uri Avnery “I was shocked to the core. These outpourings are almost verbatim copies of the diatribes of Joseph Goebbels. The same rabble-rousing slogans. The same base allegations. The same demonization. With one little difference: instead of Jews, this time it is Arabs who are undermining Western Civilization, seducing Christian maids, plotting to dominate the world. The Protocols of the Elders of Mecca.”
http://counterpunch.org/avnery07292011.html What Avnery perhaps didn't know is that the original author of some of those "almost verbatim copies of the diatribes of Joseph Goebbels" was being published at CounterPunch. On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 2:43 PM, Sandwichman <[email protected]> wrote: > What a chicken-shit response! "The inference seems to be..." Then disparage > the alleged inference and go off on a tangent as a way of downplaying the > fascistic trash Lind was writing both before and during the time he was > contributing to CounterPunch. > > > On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 2:22 PM, Louis Proyect <[email protected]> wrote: > >> From http://www.counterpunch.org/cockburn07292011.html >> >> Incidentally, on the topic of Breivik, we have had an enquiry from a >> reader noting that Breivik’s “Manifesto” has plagiarized material from >> William Lind, erstwhile Director for the Center for Cultural >> Conservatism for the Free Congress Foundation, and asking that since >> CounterPunch published material by Lind, what is our precise >> relationship to this contributor. The inference seems to be that we >> published racist neo-Nazi propaganda which helped inflame Breivik. God >> knows what he would say about our contributor William Blum, considering >> the late Osama bin Laden famously cited Bill as one of his favorite >> writers. >> >> As any CounterPuncher can quickly establish by reviewing Lind’s >> contributions through our “Search” function at the top of this home >> page, we published columns on the conduct of America’s wars by Lind >> between 2003 and 2007, in the Bush years because, from a conservative >> position, he was a trenchant and knowledgeable military analyst and >> critic of the US onslaughts on Iraq and Afghanistan and elsewhere. Lind >> had been a participant of the military reform group, trenchant critics >> of the Pentagon. >> >> His column was distributed by the Center and we would pick it up if it >> was on themes we cared for, which did not include Lind’s commentaries on >> many other matters, the cultural downslide of America and so forth. >> >> CounterPunchers should know that its editors stand responsible for >> pieces CounterPunch publishes – though we obviously don’t agree with >> every word in the roughly 3,000 pieces we put up on this site every >> year. We publish and where necessary edit articles for the edification >> of a large and intelligent regular readership. We don’t publish >> anti-Semitic or Nazi propaganda, as assessed by any rational person. I >> add this because many people eager to throw these terms around are >> irrational and usually malevolent. If you read our website with any >> frequency you will know where we’re at, as a left, radical enterprise. >> We’ve always held it as part of our brief – stemming from political >> appreciation of the actual prospects here in the USA – that we should >> acknowledge positive political work and insights on the libertarian >> front and the right and from original viewpoints. Every once in a while >> some Trotskyite purist like Louis Proyect will hoist his skirts and >> jump up on the kitchen table, aghast at the sight of an “incorrect” >> thought or assault by CounterPunch, often specifically me, on the canons >> of political and cultural PC as sedulously observed by this politically >> and intellectually demure old Trot. Then, when I say something he likes >> he’ll dispense a grateful bouquet. >> >> We don’t hold ourselves responsible for articles our contributors >> publish elsewhere. We have neither the time nor inclination to dredge >> through their lifetime archive on the internet to scrutinize articles >> they may have written one, five, ten or twenty years ago. These days we >> get regular requests from contributors to purge our archives of their >> seditious thoughts because they are up for a job, or are in a tenure >> battle. A new search site has just been launched to enable the internet >> bloodhounds to person their blacklisting tasks more efficiently. That’s >> not our world. >> >> * * * * >> >> Unfortunately, Alexander does not engage with what I wrote. I >> specifically said that Lind’s articles were not objectionable except >> one. I guess he still stands pat on this one unfortunately: >> >> 4GW theory warns that we now face a world of cultures in conflict, >> that >> we must defend Western culture and that many, perhaps most, other >> cultures are threats, especially when they flood Western countries with >> immigrants. Cultural Marxism welcomes immigrants who will not >> acculturate precisely because they are threats to Western culture. >> >> Rather sad, really. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> pen-l mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://lists.csuchico.edu/mailman/listinfo/pen-l >> > > > > -- > Sandwichman > -- Sandwichman
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