granted these points about classical facism. . .but what about Sheldon Wolin's 
theorization of "the specter of Inverted Totalitarianism?"

Wolin is making the same points as George carlin. . .we have fascism with a 
walmart smiley face. . .only he makes the points with great scholarly depth . . 
.

Has anyone read his "Democracy Inc."
http://www.amazon.com/Democracy-Incorporated-Managed-Inverted-Totalitarianism/dp/0691135665

Best,
Brian

-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Devine <[email protected]>
To: Progressive Economics <[email protected]>
Sent: Sun, Jul 31, 2011 11:09 am
Subject: Re: [Pen-l] Fascism Anyone?


Mike Meeropol  wrote:
 All this talk about Obama is pretty much beside the point.
But Mike, you then go on to talk about him, to suggest that we "make
ommon cause" with him and his ilk. So the talk can't be "beside the
oint."
> Ever since the beginning of the Bush Presidency there has been a growing
 undercurrent that looks dangerously like a precursor of fascism ---
 Obviously it would have an American twist to it, be much more based on
 religion than the Mussolini-Hitler versions, but its key element will make
 McCarthyism look like an ACLU convention...
The undercurrent was there during the Clinton years. Remember Timothy
cVeigh and all those militias? Sure, that's different from the
eabaggers, but it's mostly because the latter is more mainstream
which also means more moderate). (There are a bunch of other
istorical precursors such as the Dixiecrats and the Goldwaterites.
ere these "fascist"?)
Why is it the dystopian future that leftist see on the horizon is
lways "fascist"? As far as I can tell from history, fascism is a
esponse to a strong working class, complete with socialist and/or
ommunist parties having some power and influence. We don't see that
owadays.
As I've said, there's an alternative possibility: Scroogean
apitalism, which is the kind of capitalism that Marx analyzed; in
hat story, everyone's proletarianized with insecure jobs, forced to
ow-tow to the malevolent Invisible Hand.  In that story, the
apitalists get everything they want and it's a disaster, including
or them.
Mike, your analysis doesn't really reflect the global nature of
apitalism, including the way in which Scroogean capitalism has been
ushed all over the world -- often using force or financial blackmail
- by the unholy trinity based in the US, i.e., the US Treasury, the
MF, and the World Bank (the "Washington Consensus"). This Consensus
asn't simply a GOP thing. It's also a product of the DP, Clinton,
ubin, Summers, etc. In fact, it was the latter that brought the
onsensus back to run US finance, creating the Bubble and the Bust.
> The Tea Party (with their racist, anti-immigrant, emphasis) can provide the
 shock troops.  The Wall Streeters and big industry folks who have decided
 that they can have capitalism without the American welfare state (a major
 change from 1945-1980) will provide the money and a Republican
 administration with a Republican Congress will officially repeal the New
 Deal.
It looks to me as if a Democratic Party administration is
ump-starting that process. But talking about Obama's role as an
nabler of Scroogean capitalism would be beside the point?
In addition, isn't the Tea Party movement in many ways a reaction to
hat Scroogean capitalism that not only Bush #2 but Clinton pushed?
There are a lot of other elements, e.g., male resentment of women's
conomic advances in some fields, bitterness of the #2/Obama bail-out
f the big financial powers, etc.)
In any event, isn't it possible that such a repeal would ignite a more
oherent popular disgust toward the two-party oligopoly than we see
ight now? Is it always an irreversibly slippery slope?
> If I am right, whatever we think of Obama, the miniscule American Left has
 got to make common cause, even with the DLC types in the Democratic Party.
How would we have any influence at all over what they do? wouldn't we
ust be acting like cheer-leaders? (I'm a bit too over-weight for that
ld cheer-leading dress!)
> Remember -- the Left was in its heyday (both in the 1930s and in the 1960s)
 when LIBERALISM was in the drivers seat.

 If that period ever returns we can start making strong attacks on the
 liberals.

 Remember the 1930s when the German Communist Party decided their chief
 enemies were the "social fascists" of the Social Democratic Party.  We all
 know how that turned out.
I don't think anyone on pen-l sees the US Democratic Part as the chief
nemy (the modern "social fascists"). More importantly, I don't see
ny reason to see any reason to equate principled criticisms of the
eactionary policies of both the DP and GOP with the idiotic "third
eriod" of the Comintern.
In any event, if fascism is on the horizon, isn't the left so
miniscule" that it doesn't matter what we do?
- 
im Devine / "Segui il tuo corso, e lascia dir le genti." (Go your own
ay and let people talk.) -- Karl, paraphrasing Dante.
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