The BBC team is as vile as some of the US hacks.

Gene Coyle

On Aug 10, 2011, at 2:05 PM, Paul Cockshott wrote:

> Have a look at Darcus Howe on it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pqn75z6CvI4
> ________________________________________
> From: [email protected] [[email protected]] On 
> Behalf Of Carrol Cox [[email protected]]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2011 6:17 PM
> To: Progressive Economics
> Subject: Re: [Pen-l] riots
> 
> Riots are a pre-political response lacking any effective formal means of
> response to some outrage. (The instigators may or may not be "hot
> heads.") Most only devlop into riots when minor bits of vandalism are
> met by a full-scale pol9ice riot. Very few riots are not, essentially,
> police riots.
> 
> Riots are rare in communities that have been politicized. After the
> death of King NO rioting occurred in any neighborhood in which SNCC or
> the Panthers had been organizing.
> 
> Carrol
> 
> On 8/10/2011 10:29 AM, jmp wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> On 10/08/11 15:58, Jim Devine wrote:
>>> a couple of months ago, my son (age 21) asked me why riots occur (in
>>> reference to the 1992 "Rodney King" riots in LA). He clearly had no
>>> clue, so I gave him a short and quick answer. Here it is, changed a
>>> bit:
>>> 
>>> 1) there's a community inside society that's outside of the mainstream
>>> and/or dominated by the rest of society. It's not well organized.
>>> 
>>> 2) there's a reason for this community to be angry (cf. Rodney King).
>>> 
>>> 3) opportunists and/or "hot heads" start looting, burning, and/or
>>> anti-personnel violence (which turns it into a "riot").
>>> 
>>> any thoughts? By the way, I think that this fits such riots as the
>>> "white riot" against Martin Luther King, Jr., in Chicago in 1965. It's
>>> not just a matter of ethnic minorities.
>> 
>> Whenever there are western/urban riots I always re-read Debord's "The
>> Decline and Fall of the Spectacle-Commodity Economy", which is about the
>> riots in LA in 1965: http://www.cddc.vt.edu/sionline/si/decline.html
>> 
>> -martin
>> 
>> 
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