On Sun, 25 Sep 2011 20:43:00 -0400
Louis Proyect <[email protected]> wrote:

> On 9/25/11 8:31 PM, Michael Smith wrote:
> >
> > The Democratic Party.
 
>  the real 
> problem is not the DP but the radical implosion of the 1970s and 80s 
> when the Maoists and the SWP went off the deep end. The real need is to 
> break out of that framework altogether and get organized on a class 
> struggle basis but without the insanity. We had a chance to build 
> something significant out of the 2000 Nader campaign but the god-damned 
> Demogreens sabotaged it. I guess that the DP still is the turd in the 
> punch bowl after all...

I think it is. Granted the space-cadettery of both Maoists
and SWP -- I saw the Maoist dream world at first hand, but 
know little about the SWP version -- that's a long time ago, 
though to people of Louis' and my vintage it seems like only 
yesterday. But the DP is still alive and well and poisoning
well-intended minds daily, hourly, and on a mass scale. 

If Louis asks me nicely, I will tell a story that captures 
the characteristic flavor of Maoist nuttiness back in the 
day. 

...Oh hell, I'll tell it anyway. Late 70s. I was part of a 
little Maoist cell here in New York, led by a guy -- 
let's call him Dave Manchester -- who was really the 
classic commie ironbutt: he could outlast anybody at a 
meeting, and never, as far as I know, had to get up and 
go pee. 

The moment I'm thinking of is shortly after the 
Three Mile Island nuke-plant scare. The streets were full 
of people riled up about nuclear power. Dave didn't 
quite know which way to jump on this one. On the one 
hand, the "masses are mobilized." On the other hand -- 
wait for it -- "after we take state power, we'll 
have to *run* these reactors." 

True story. 

I should add that Dave grew up to be a union bureaucrat 
and is now a thorn in the side of a relative of mine who 
runs a union. I gather he is no longer a Maoist but still 
an ironbutt; and nobody has ever seen him in the WC. 

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Michael J. Smith
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